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Big Mama Daft
Extreme Agony
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Posted - 2016.02.12 14:36:18 -
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eiedu wrote:
I would just like to point out that the correlation between wreck HP and freighter HP is coincidental. Wrecks having more HP does not make it easier to gank freighters. Whereas freighters having more hp actually makes it harder to gank. All you're really doing is throwing the "predator and prey" environment out of whack.
You of course realise that ganking even an empty freighter was ISK efficient (at least killboard wise)? Don't care if you guys blow up the "stupid fits" and the massively overstuffed ones, but this was not the case and you know it.
Also, excellent idea to get rid of the "de facto" DCU -- my raptor loves you Fozzie! (not enough lows ... must absolutely have my nano and BCU ;-) |
Big Mama Daft
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.02.12 15:26:09 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Now you basically have to hit somebody with over 3 billion to break even. That basically kills piracy in highsec, and it was already on life support.
Sounds legit. 50 catalysts x 1.1 mil each = 55 mil "invested" yet gankers cry all over their soup. So much lol.
The important stuff with this rebalance (yes, I just admitted highsec ganking is child's play of no consequence nor consideration as far as I'm concerned) is the buff to those same catalysts and frigates in, say, nullsec or low -- that should make you happy, no? A little more tank off the shelf for the little guys, where all of a sudden I can think of more important modules to fit rather than an obligatory DCU?
Highsec is such a small place. Think about all the new fits for FW / frig gangs. My hulltanked Thorax, too ... it's difficult to grasp the implications of it all but I won't shed one tear for gankers, ever. They might learn to PvP for a change, or maybe pick their targets better, idk? "I'll unsub all my ganking alt" boohoo. Go ahead.
I'm seeing a lot of good stuff coming, keep it up! |
Big Mama Daft
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.02.12 15:37:17 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Big Mama Daft wrote:
Sounds legit. 50 catalysts x 1.1 mil each = 55 mil
This could not be more dishonest. You do realize that you're just claiming the hull cost, right? Nevermind that isk tanking should never be a thing, especially in highsec, but I just wanted to point out that you're a liar.
I stand corrected -- they're 2.06 mil on ZKill.
Don't you liar me for such a small transgression LOL |
Big Mama Daft
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.02.12 15:50:02 -
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baltec1 wrote:Big Mama Daft wrote:
Sounds legit. 50 catalysts x 1.1 mil each = 55 mil "invested" yet gankers cry all over their soup. So much lol.
Why should it take 50 pilots to stand any chance of killing a freighter when the freighter needs just one other pilot to be 99.9% safe? Also average catalyst price is 11 million.
It takes around 50 in throwaway Catalysts. Fix: use something better. Ahhhh, but then "MAH ISK EFFICIENCY!!" lulz. You can still be very ISK efficient because you're trying to take down a 1.5 bil ship. I'm sure CODE already did the math and realised they're still coming out ahead but they hope whining will get CCP to reconsider.
Please note it also takes multiple players to take down a Carrier or Dread, which to the best of my knowledge are capital ships same as a freighter. Also note it's called "high security" space. Suiciding your ship for big loot is a CHOICE, not an obligation. If the loot is worth it, by all means go ahead. Even if the number were 550 mil (which it ain't and you know it; ZKill don't lie), so what? Your empty freighter costs 1.5 bil. Cry on.
baltec1 wrote:Big Mama Daft wrote:
A little more tank off the shelf for the little guys, where all of a sudden I can think of more important modules to fit rather than an obligatory DCU?
Freighters cant fit DCU, they were given more structure in their balance pass to make up for this and it was stated given them a DCU would make them overpowered.
Wasn't talking about freighters there. Was talking about frigates and destroyers. Quite a lot of them only have 2-3 lows and this balance pass opens up considerably more options.
I was hoping to draw some attention toward the little ships whose HP pool is significantly impacted by these changes. Guess it's all gankertears in this thread, unfortunately. |
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